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Herda vs. Ireland – Martha’s case is being prepared for European Court of Human Rights

Due to the refusal by the Supreme Court in Ireland to handle the case, Martha’s case is being prepared for submission to the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg.
The Supreme Court made it’s decision on May 21, 2018.
From this day, there is a six months deadline for lodging the case before the European Court.
Martha’s case must be submitted to Strasbourg before November 21, 2018.
Martha’s family, despite the vacation time, makes consultations regarding submission of the application.
Martha’s current solicitor – Frank Gearty, is also getting acquainted with the case.
The application for the European Court of Human Rights will be prepared immediately after summer hollidays, in September.

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First enormous request – PLEASE HELP US FINANCIALLY

Till now we asked very modestly.
We didn’t expose this request.
We didn’t impose ourselves.
We didn’t put ads to our sites.
We can count few more of such “didn’ts”
First of all:
Never before have we raised money and…
…we have NO experience in that.

We do plenty of things out of necessity and for the first time.
But someone has to do it.
The situation surprised us and made us undertake actions we haven’t done until now.

We would like to thank very much for previous donations on behalf of Martha.
We will try to use the raised money very reasonably.
Until now we didn’t spend anything from raised money.
At the same time, we can ensure that if we would like to count the costs incurred by us so far – it would be many times more than the amount collected.
We don’t even want to think how many times more.
We write about this only to say, that we act without looking at if we have help, or not.

Due to the fact that fight for Martha enters decisive phase, we would like to ask you very much for full support of our actions regarding Financial Fund for saving Martha.


Please share broadly the link for donations:
https://zrzutka.pl/en/pomoc-dla-marty


We ask the people with experience for help in organizing raises on English language sites and other.


The goal: FREEDOM for Martha
Term: getting out of Martha to freedom in year… (…not this year. We know what year we would want to enter here. For sure this isn’t the year that Ireland plans to set Martha free – surely not the year 2034)
Amount of raised money: … guaranteeing professional defence of Martha’s violated rights and fixing the harm done to her. (If the amount would come out higher, then we will donate the surplus for other aggrieved people).
Allocation of the amount: legal actions for restoring justice.
The Method:… effective.
Time of raising funds: NOW and gradually during half of year (if needed, the raising may be prolonged for few more months).

We thank very much to every sincere person for previous actions.
We hope for a positive final of this tragedy thanks to the support of great, valuable people

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Fight for justice for Martha enters decisive phase – may we ASK for help?

What happened after rejecting of Martha’s case by Supreme Court?
We don’t want to say: “Nothing happened”.
We want to say: “Nothing happened that we didn’t foresee”.
Accumulation of negative emotions in Ireland around Martha’s case didn’t allow us to have too much hope for decision positive for Martha.
We will speak about the decision of the Supreme Court.
We had to try…
We had to try to make the renowned judges in Ireland, sitting in the Supreme Court, interested in Martha’s case.
The delegated judges made their decision.
They are not interested.
It is not known whether unanimously.
We can only thank, that they didn’t wait too long to make the decision.
Briefly and directly, in a way comprehensible even for a layman, they also dealt with the incompetence of Martha’s defenders.

Now we’re moving to further actions.
It is comforting, that the limit of probable failures that we assumed, has just been exhausted.
With pleasure we move to the next stages.
Stages for restoring justice for Martha.
For fixing the harm done to Martha in Ireland.
With no illusions…
With no naive expectations…

Regarding this, we will turn to you with pleas for help.
We will have 3 enormous pleas.
Every plea will be extremely important.

We will be most grateful to kind people who will want to actively answer our requests.
The next half of year and the next 12 months will be decisive.
For that to happen, exceptional HELP is needed NOW…
…and from NOW…
The more people will want to help us, the more the help for Martha will be effective…
PLEASE…

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Will Martha stop to succumb to extortions? – Will she be herself? – First person – Csaba Orsos

Martha is such a kind soul, that she often relents.
For peace, often at her expense.
Unfortunately, strong personalities, who sometimes appear around her, with different intentions, use this against Martha.

Will Martha stop to succumb to such extortions?
Will she start to be herself?
Will she start to make decisions according to her own choice and her own good?

The first extortionist was Csaba.
On the unlucky day he forced Martha to drive towards the beach.
He wanted Martha to drive.
Martha didn’t want at first.
She succumbed.
She didn’t want to be seen in the car with Csaba… and she started driving.

Then she “stood up”.
She told Csaba, that she’s going home and she will not drive to the beach.
“Standing up” and opposing at this moment led to the tragedy.

And she could not succumb to Csaba’s extortion earlier…
She could…
It’s easy to say…

Martha is can’t stop worrying about others.
But maybe she could be… a little bit more resolute…
About the man from other social culture…
Culturally accustomed to male domination…
Where woman has nothing to say…
Where a woman can even be abducted, and she agrees for this…

Maybe Martha could…
If she was less kind…
If she could…

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Pole in Ireland: Forner or Full citizen?

Fellow compatriots in Ireland.
Martha’s situation shows how ,at least some, Polish people are treated in Ireland.
But Martha will eventually regain freedom.
Will she be released in Ireland or in Poland?
Will you be willing to help your compatriot?
Or maybe you believed in Irish propaganda, and you thing that she’s guilty, and she got what she deserves?
Maybe you are convinced about Martha’s innocence, but you don’t want to stand out, and show your opinion in this unfriendly environment? You have your work, some regular money, what do you care about Martha? Why risk? This will certainly never happen to you.

If Martha will be released in Poland – your situation won’t change and can even get worse. Irish system will harden, and will be even more ruthless to foreigners. Hope you will not experience it, even in the smallest matter. If it was possible to accuse Martha with an absurd charge, and it was pushed further, there will be no problem to push anything against you, foreigners.

What if Martha was released in Ireland?
You can be sure, that foreigners will be started being treated more seriously. And maybe, as it is in civilized countries, a translator will be obligatory to assist a foreigner, and at will to charge an accusation – an attorney (things Martha didn’t have in the beginning – neither an attorney nor the translator). GARDA will not start to interrogate you without a translator and without you consulting an attorney. And  most certainly will not try to use it against you at court.

Dear compatriots in Ireland.
We’re not hiding, that if you wish, you can help us a lot.
Help us, but also, help yourself.
We thank very much to all Poles living in Ireland, who support Martha’s fight for justice.

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It’s now 2-0. Will it be 3-0, and what next?

Martha’s current situation is 0-2 result. Two spectacular losses.
Will there be a third one?
It still hasn’t been decided if t there will be a next game on the opponent’s territory.
If it comes to it, it’s going to be a fight, where the result is very important.
Previous 0-2 may not have  any meaning at the time. The result of the game will be decisive, or there can be annulment and repeat of the first encounter.
What if it will not come to this strife?
Then this will be the time to fight at home and at the same time to submit a request for a game on a neutral ground.
The game at home wouldn’t be a play to score. It would be a fight for the player. For providing him what he deserves and what he doesn’t get on enemy territory now. First of all it would be a fight for physical and mental health, recovering. Fixing everything what’s possible to fix. At the same time, an application for international arbitration will be directed to play on a neutral ground. This will be the fight for everything: for score, and for all possible penalties for ruthless opponent.
Is it time to change the coach after two losses?
Current coach is the one appointed by the opponent. Probably he isn’t even a coach of the discipline in which the fight is going, because the opponent changed the conditions of the competition.
Some say, that after first such spectacular failure, the coach should resign by himself already, and surely he shouldn’t be responsible for the second game. In some countries he even wouldn’t have the chance. Coaches were “thanked” after less culpable losses.
What are we thinking about?
About TIME.
We plan our next actions, and times goes flows and flows.
The player is being held in unfavorable, hostile surroundings. At a cost of his health, psyche. Every previous experience accumulate with current pushing around and ill-treatment.
Sooner or later, this player will be recovered.
What state will he be in?
While caring for the player, in what moment should decisions about next steps be taken?

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Suggesting Martha’s “secret” phone

Martha had two phones with active cards. One with number ending in …32, the second with number ending with …05. She had one of the phones for 7 years (…32), the second one fo 2 years (…05). She used both of them.

Why she had two?
Martha says herself, that she sometimes lost the phone or leave it somewhere and she couldn’t find it. So she bought second one, as an additional phone.
She also switched the cards between them, so she was using the newer phone on the main number (…32) , and older phone on the second, additional number (…05).
The older phone,  with less used number (…05), Martha took with her in the situation, where she anticipated that she can loose it somewhere (on tours, strolls) or leave it somewhere.
Both of Martha’s phone numbers were known to her friends and both were actively used.

Meanwhile…
How billings from Martha’s phones were prepared:
Only the period from March 23rd 2013 (3 days before the event) to March 26th 2013 (the day of the event), was taken.
Only contacting selected people was presented.
What came out of it:
Using the number “…32”:
– Martha called Csaba – 4 times
– text messages from Csaba to Martha – 2 times
Using the number “…05”:
– Martha called Csaba – 8 times
– Csaba called Martha – 13 times
– text messages from Csaba to Martha – 7 times
This was juxtaposed with Martha’s phone calls  to Victor (only using the number “…32”)
– Martha called Victor – 16 times
– text messages from Martha to Victor – 11 times
Based on this, Irish Garda, and the prosecutor’s office came to conclusion, that Martha had a “secret” phone (“…05”), she used only for calling Csaba.

Despite the matter had been explained earlier, that both phone numbers were known, and in use all the time, this didn’t prevent the prosecutor to present this in the court as an argument against Martha.

Why?

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